tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7298312567843426829.post289888206930755875..comments2024-03-28T13:26:02.646-02:30Comments on → Music Composition Weblog ←: Composition Issues (6)Clark Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13153382609775397798noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7298312567843426829.post-74453666560722542562013-12-10T21:54:15.987-03:302013-12-10T21:54:15.987-03:30This is such a great post. I love how you give suc...This is such a great post. I love how you give such unbiased arguments for each side. I find this a very difficult balance. I tend to write with a tonal/post-tonal sense of harmony, so I'm very influenced by tonal types of tension. But keeping things interesting while not using too many different ideas is difficult. I also find many tonal harmony tension techniques are often so predictable now after years of hearing them, then hardly create tension anymore unless done very cleverly. This is always a struggle. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12590508202115613255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7298312567843426829.post-69329356437154651602008-11-22T12:48:00.000-03:302008-11-22T12:48:00.000-03:30I agree with all points of this post to varying de...I agree with all points of this post to varying degrees. Some interesting things to note though:<BR/><BR/>These concepts may not be universal. Or at least not to the degree we think they are. For instance...<BR/><BR/>Indian classical music is largely improvisatory. Pieces can last for hours at a time all exploring one particular scale or raga.<BR/><BR/>Traditional African music can be very repetitive. It can involve complex interlocking patterns that once again, repeat for hours.<BR/><BR/>Javanese gamelan music involves the repetition of cycles-you guessed it...for a very looong time.<BR/><BR/>For listeners, the pleasure derived in the first two examples comes frmo the comlpexity and virtuosity of the music, as well as subtle variations within the repetitive forms. In Indian music, the very slow build of tension is also part of the pleasure.<BR/>For time cycles, Indonesian people derive pleasure when cycles collide, overlap and begin again.<BR/><BR/>Of course, this doesn't necessarily argue against any argument you've made. Music does need repetition and variation, but the degree to which worldwide audiences percieve both vary greatly.Heidihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08239781159441405672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7298312567843426829.post-14730534302239945752008-11-19T19:36:00.000-03:302008-11-19T19:36:00.000-03:30Bahaha.. This post is awesome!Great arguments from...Bahaha.. This post is awesome!<BR/>Great arguments from both sides of the expected/unexpected, familiar/unfamiliar sides.<BR/><BR/>I'll give my opinions on which ones I agree with more:<BR/><BR/>I agree more towards the familiar/expected side for the first point. Once we (listeners) are familiar with an opening, we want to see how it evolvs. People's attention spans DO have limits but if we vary the idea enough and make it so that listeners want to hear the music, then it will work.<BR/><BR/>For the 2nd Point I am with both sides. Reusing ideas is great! Giving new material for added interest is great as well!<BR/><BR/>For the 3rd Point I agree with the unexpected. Minimalism can be great, but too much of it without variation would be torturous if you are hyper. I-I-I-I-I-I-I (NO MORE TONIC! WHERES THE DOMINANT?? PLEASE... PLEASE PLAY A DOMINANT!)<BR/>I Love minimalism when unexpected changes in harmonies occur. When its too repetitive im not a happy kim. This goes hand in hand with ostinati.Kim Codnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15933916493696460386noreply@blogger.com